hmm, a few to try , thanks.
yeah @Gavin that's pretty much what I'm doing.
Ive got a Bastl OMSynth, which is a prototyping board - I like it a lot, got pots, leds, speaker, io, power all to hand, and importantly short circuit protection, so its very quick to try ideas out on.
the synth projects you can also buy, and hence the OMSynth name, are also pretty fun too, I learnt a lot from them.
( you could build a prototyping board quite easily , actually the OMSynth design is open sourced, so you could build that, but I was a bit too much of a beginner, and lazy )
Ive also got a DSO138, a very cheap scope which I use for probing (find a bit more useful that a multimeter), helped me a lot to see what is going on.
its working quite well, though if I do much more, I think , I'm going to look for a better budget digital oscilloscope, preferably with a signal generator (if such a thing exists!?).
Id be interested in suggestions... has to be reasonably priced, and also I don't want it to computer based. (I don't want to run the risk or blowing that up, by incorrect use )